Wednesday’s Presidential address to a joint session of congress was interrupted by an unusual shout by Rep Joe Wilson of SC. When Obama stated that illegal aliens would not be given coverage under Obamacare,Joe shouted,“You lie!!”The following day,under pressure from the party leadership he called the White House and apologized for his lack of civility. He may have had a slip in civility,but was he correct in his assessment?
We have been listening to claims and counter claims repeatedly over the summer about what is and what is not part of the healthcare proposals before congress. There have been a lot of “bait and switch”tactics about the various bills,but the only bill currently presented and released by committee is the one crafted in the house. This 1000+ page monstrosity has been accused of containing most every onerous proposal possible by its opponents while the supporters claim none of these things exist in the bill. For example,some say there is no “death panel”in the bill although that has been claimed by numerous opponents. Can both claims be right?
First the illegal aliens claim. Obama is right in that the bill does have a small provision that states that persons not legally in the US are not authorized care under its provisions. Unfortunately Joe Wilson is more correct that under that bill millions of illegal aliens would receive healthcare under its provisions. How could this be? Well,although the bill specifically excludes the illegals it also specifically denies the right of healthcare providers to check for illegal status or eligibility under the plan.
Two provisions were proposed by Republicans in the house to require proof of legal residency for care under the bill and both were defeated by the Democrats in pure party line votes. Why,if illegals were not to be eligible for care,would anyone specifically want to deny the right of providers to determine if persons were legally here in this country in order to receive such care?
Well,the simple answer is that the claims that illegals would not be authorized care is disingenuous at best,and an outright lie at worst. It is obvious that the crafters of this bill intended,1) to allow illegals to receive care under its provisions and 2) to be able to deny that they did so.
What? Does this mean our Democratic leadership is actually lied to us? Yes Dorthy,politicians do lie from time to time and this tome is full of such distortions that are designed specifically to mislead the American public. Why do you suppose there was such a push to approve it without even reading it back in late July? It is plain and simple. The writers did not want this thing exposed to the “light of day”.
How about death panels? If illegals will indeed be treated under the bill,do they also exist? Well,yes and no. There is mandatory “end of life counseling”required under the bill,but nothing says anything about denial of treatment for elderly or terminal patients. However,the “footprints in the sands”indicate just such panels will exist.
Rahm Emanuel,Obama’s chief of staff,has stated as much on occasions. Even more revealing are statements of his brother Dr Ezekiel Emanuel who has been appointed to two key positions:health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research. According to him in an article in last years “Health Affairs,Feb 27,2008,“Vague promises of savings from cutting waste,enhancing prevention and wellness,installing electronic medical records and improving quality are merely ‘lipstick’cost control,more for show and public relations than for true change.”In other articles he outlined how to control costs by denying treatment to the elderly infirm and the very young,both of whom are not of the same value to society as youthful basically healthy adults. Since Obama has promised to control the cost,and these are the persons he has employed to show him how to do so,what do you think? Yes Dorothy,right again.
Then Obama wants you to believe that he will not cut care to the elderly,and he will find enough savings from eliminating abuse in current Medicare and Medicaid to pay for it. And are we to believe the tooth fairy and the easter bunny are going to pop up and give you a check for a zillion dollars too?
If the federal government can find the aproximately 20% of waste and abuse in Medicare and Medicaid why haven’t they already done so? If he is not planning to cut care to the elderly why is he citing to remove 500 Billion from those two programs to fund Obamacare?
The federal government came up with Social Security back in the 30s and promised it would never be the monster that it has become. It is currently bankrupt and has had to be rescued by additional taxes repeatedly. Same for Medicare and Medicaid,and the good old U.S. Post Office as well. The truth is that government has no profit motive and is thus inept at doing anything in a fiscally effective manner. After all,when they overspend they can simply raise taxes or borrow money that they have no intent on ever repaying.
Government has no money to do anything for anyone that they do not first steal from someone else through taxation or deficit spending. Why would an alert American public want to turn over one seventh of our economy to them? Answer. We wouldn’t,that’s why they hid it in a 1000+ page monster bill and pressed the congress to pass it without reading it. John Conyers,chairman of the House Judiciary Committee,even ridiculed anyone advocating they “Read the bill!”saying it would take “two days and two lawyers”to do so.
Keep firmly in mind what the people that push this bill are doing. They are playing the American public for fools and trying to push what they know is an abomination (or perhaps Obamination?) on us. Why do you think Obama is pushing for immediate action on something that will not take place until 2013,conveniently right after his reelection campaign?
There is no emergency requiring fast action to buy a product produced by proven snake oil salesmen America. The fact that they are trying to push this off on us is reason enough to remove them from office at the first opportunity. Thank you Joe Wilson for having the guts to recognize a shell game for what it is and call,“Liar,Liar,Pants on Fire!“
Liar,Liar,Pants on Fire!!
Wednesday’s Presidential address to a joint session of congress was interrupted by an unusual shout by Rep Joe Wilson of SC. When Obama stated that illegal aliens would not be given coverage under Obamacare,Joe shouted,“You lie!!”The following day,under pressure from the party leadership he called the White House and apologized for his lack of civility. He may have had a slip in civility,but was he correct in his assessment?
We have been listening to claims and counter claims repeatedly over the summer about what is and what is not part of the healthcare proposals before congress. There have been a lot of “bait and switch”tactics about the various bills,but the only bill currently presented and released by committee is the one crafted in the house. This 1000+ page monstrosity has been accused of containing most every onerous proposal possible by its opponents while the supporters claim none of these things exist in the bill. For example,some say there is no “death panel”in the bill although that has been claimed by numerous opponents. Can both claims be right?
First the illegal aliens claim. Obama is right in that the bill does have a small provision that states that persons not legally in the US are not authorized care under its provisions. Unfortunately Joe Wilson is more correct that under that bill millions of illegal aliens would receive healthcare under its provisions. How could this be? Well,although the bill specifically excludes the illegals it also specifically denies the right of healthcare providers to check for illegal status or eligibility under the plan.
Two provisions were proposed by Republicans in the house to require proof of legal residency for care under the bill and both were defeated by the Democrats in pure party line votes. Why,if illegals were not to be eligible for care,would anyone specifically want to deny the right of providers to determine if persons were legally here in this country in order to receive such care?
Well,the simple answer is that the claims that illegals would not be authorized care is disingenuous at best,and an outright lie at worst. It is obvious that the crafters of this bill intended,1) to allow illegals to receive care under its provisions and 2) to be able to deny that they did so.
What? Does this mean our Democratic leadership is actually lied to us? Yes Dorthy,politicians do lie from time to time and this tome is full of such distortions that are designed specifically to mislead the American public. Why do you suppose there was such a push to approve it without even reading it back in late July? It is plain and simple. The writers did not want this thing exposed to the “light of day”.
How about death panels? If illegals will indeed be treated under the bill,do they also exist? Well,yes and no. There is mandatory “end of life counseling”required under the bill,but nothing says anything about denial of treatment for elderly or terminal patients. However,the “footprints in the sands”indicate just such panels will exist.
Rahm Emanuel,Obama’s chief of staff,has stated as much on occasions. Even more revealing are statements of his brother Dr Ezekiel Emanuel who has been appointed to two key positions:health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research. According to him in an article in last years “Health Affairs,Feb 27,2008,“Vague promises of savings from cutting waste,enhancing prevention and wellness,installing electronic medical records and improving quality are merely ‘lipstick’cost control,more for show and public relations than for true change.”In other articles he outlined how to control costs by denying treatment to the elderly infirm and the very young,both of whom are not of the same value to society as youthful basically healthy adults. Since Obama has promised to control the cost,and these are the persons he has employed to show him how to do so,what do you think? Yes Dorothy,right again.
Then Obama wants you to believe that he will not cut care to the elderly,and he will find enough savings from eliminating abuse in current Medicare and Medicaid to pay for it. And are we to believe the tooth fairy and the easter bunny are going to pop up and give you a check for a zillion dollars too?
If the federal government can find the aproximately 20% of waste and abuse in Medicare and Medicaid why haven’t they already done so? If he is not planning to cut care to the elderly why is he citing to remove 500 Billion from those two programs to fund Obamacare?
The federal government came up with Social Security back in the 30s and promised it would never be the monster that it has become. It is currently bankrupt and has had to be rescued by additional taxes repeatedly. Same for Medicare and Medicaid,and the good old U.S. Post Office as well. The truth is that government has no profit motive and is thus inept at doing anything in a fiscally effective manner. After all,when they overspend they can simply raise taxes or borrow money that they have no intent on ever repaying.
Government has no money to do anything for anyone that they do not first steal from someone else through taxation or deficit spending. Why would an alert American public want to turn over one seventh of our economy to them? Answer. We wouldn’t,that’s why they hid it in a 1000+ page monster bill and pressed the congress to pass it without reading it. John Conyers,chairman of the House Judiciary Committee,even ridiculed anyone advocating they “Read the bill!”saying it would take “two days and two lawyers”to do so.
Keep firmly in mind what the people that push this bill are doing. They are playing the American public for fools and trying to push what they know is an abomination (or perhaps Obamination?) on us. Why do you think Obama is pushing for immediate action on something that will not take place until 2013,conveniently right after his reelection campaign?
There is no emergency requiring fast action to buy a product produced by proven snake oil salesmen America. The fact that they are trying to push this off on us is reason enough to remove them from office at the first opportunity. Thank you Joe Wilson for having the guts to recognize a shell game for what it is and call,“Liar,Liar,Pants on Fire!“